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Hi...you mean that you walk 40-48 miles a week? Thats impressive. I too believe that exercise is an important part of life, but i was doing what i do now well before i found out i had osteo. I love to walk, but i don't know if i could keep up with you. I was "depressed" when i first found out about it, but got over that as soon as i stopped actenol and started strontium. Now its a part of who i am, but not the defining part. I feel good about what i'm doing and plan to keep it that way. A person could have perfect bones and break something or have less than perfect ones and never break a thing. If something is going to happen it will regardless of what we do or don't do. I find its best to focus on things i can control and let the other things slide. I don't know if this is the best way to look at things..but i can wake up in the morning and look forward to the day.

Osteoblast..you are a smart woman and know in your heart you are doing all you can to help your bones. Just look at all postive things you are doing...walking, exercising, taking your supplements and living life the best you can. Stop beating yourself up..all of us here understand how you feel and are here to help. What do you do like to for fun? Read? Crafts? travel? You are so much more than the dx of ostoeporosis. have a good weekend..take care...phyllis
Phylwill- The 8 miles or so I usually do a day is generally in either two or three stints. And, I have three serious walking partners who live nearby so I can usually find a companion when the weather is good for walking. One of my walking buddies is 70 and she is an amazing walker, she has no problem keeping pace and can do 12 miles at a stint-easy. We live in an area where we can walk up to 12 miles(6 out/6 back) , mostly avoiding traffic and getting into some nice forested trail areas. When the weather is not so good it is the treadmill.My husband is a major hiker too and when we can ,we go to the coast for hiking weekends where we can go from hiking high on the cliffs looking out over the ocean, to down on the beach. Or we go hiking in an area where there are numerous trails by waterfalls.Hiking is a big part of my life, the daily walking keeps me fit for the hikes which are my big passion. . The hiking involves seeing alot of beautiful scenery and depending on the time of year, there can be a wide variety of wildflowers and mushrooms to identify and enjoy! Also do some bird watching while hiking - depending on the area, we have seen herons gathered in moonlight at a coastal estuary ,and white egrets gathered in the trees by that same coastal area . Wow that was some trip!!My other passion is cooking and of course eating :), I am mostly a vegetarian so that's what I cook.I love to read as well . I like to take courses ,like a recent chi gung class . And, we like to enjoy the big city attractions as well going to the art museums. These habits established over the years, esp. the cooking and hiking either solo or with my buddies and husband have pulled me through. I feel like Maria in The Sound of Music- "these are a few of my favorite things ..." Phylwil- what are your favorite things? :)
osteoblast:

There were studies which indicated that SSRI's reduce bone density, but tricyclic antidepressants do not reduce bone density. Here's a couple studies at [url]www.pubmed.gov[/url], search for
17592097 (study with men)
17592096 (study with women)
So if we need to take antidepressants, we could perhaps try the tricyclic antidepressants. But for them, "the therapeutic dose is close to the toxic dose", so that might also be dangerous. :(

I had been taking Prozac (SSRI) but when I read about the BMD connection a year ago, I stopped. So for the time being, I am just riding the depression (or, as you said, "Just keep trucking.")
Hi Osteoblast...i sure wish i had someone like you around here to walk with. My walking buddy quits when its gets cold so its me and the dogs. Of course i don't go as far alone, but we manage 2 or 3 miles when we can get out. I have a collection Leslie Sanson walking videos i do when its too cold or nasty. The wind is my biggest stopper. Yesterday it only got up to7 and today was in the 20's but too windy. We walk in the fields across from our house and when it blows...its blows. Where you walk with your friends sounds beautiful, what part of the country do you live in? east or west coast?

A couple of years ago we started tent camping again. We choose the parks we visit for the trails they have. I love to hike and luckily Larry is willing to go, but not nearly as eager as i am ...the view from the top of a hill will keep me climbing for as long as it takes. I don't know about you, but i'd much rather go uphill than down. For me going downhill has always been a bit scary. Larry is a birder, but i can only recognise the ones i can see, he can tell by their song.

I also like to read, make twined rag rugs, keep busy and cook. I like to invent new meals for us. I make a lot of soup in the winter and love creating new ones. Yesterday we had lentil, barley, bean with chicken and lots of other stuff. it came out nice and spicy. I like to bake too...i make things for Larry to take to work. I get the enjoyment of making the cookies, biscotti or whatever, but don't have them around the house for me to eat. After a couple of warm cookies, i'm through with them.

Thanks for asking and thanks for sharing. We are all so much more than our health issues, i like getting to know the real person. I wonder if the moderators would allow an off topic thread of getting to know each other...we could call it "the people behind the bones"....have a good weekend...take care...phyllis
Phylwil-I am on the West Coast. I salute you for going out in the cold like that and you're lucky you 've got your dogs to accompany you! Dedicated walker that I am , I do not like bitter or even semi- bitter cold. Luckily we rarely have any cold like you are talking about.Uphill, downhill--hmmm for me it depends on the width of the trail and whether or not we are over a big drop off or not. I love making soups as well and your spicy bean soup sounds terrific. I am sure coming back in from your walk to a hot tasty bowl of soup is very enjoyable! Your "people behind the bones" is a really great idea. Take care and stay warm!!!
Hello Everyone,

I too enjoy walking - VERY much, as I've often mentioned on previous posts. I walk most every day I can, even in cold or damp weather (unless the rain is just too hard, like it has been these last few days in L.A.). I HATE it when I can't walk for a couple of days, and today I walked almost two and one half hours, to make up for the couple of bad rainy days we've just had in my area.

I decided from the outset not to let the osteo diagnosis get me down. I read ''The Myth of Osteoporosis'' by Gillian Sanson. That was a great help. I recommend it to anyone who may be feeling depressed by a diagnosis of osteo. Phyllis is right when she said that some people with perfect bone density CAN, and often DO, fracture something, while others with less than perfect BMD may never fracture anything. We're all different, with different metabolisms and different ways of coping with stress, and probs. I, for one, have decided NOT to do any more DEXA scans (my own personal choice). I'm more than a little sceptical about the machines and their accuracy and whether BMD is the be-all and end-all of bone health. I don't happen to think that it necessarily is. Bone ''strength'' also could count for something too. My doctor mentioned that 70% of bone strength is derived from BMD, but I'm not too sure if that's correct and am hoping there may be soon another test available specifically to test for bone strength.

Osteo is NOT cancer, and NOT life-threatening. I know that many of us feel as if this dx has to somehow change our whole lives. I don't believe that, I continue to live as I always have, eating well, exercising (a great, if not the BEST anti-depressant), and trying to keep a positive outlook.

DON'T let a dx of osteo get you down. DON'T get sucked into all the hype and hoopla that drug companies and ''some'' docs continually rant about. take a deep breath - continue to live as you did before. You're still the same ''you'' - right?:D
Montesflus-
You have alot of good points . And, the Myth of Osteoporosis is a good book. And, osteoporosis is not cancer but it can be life threatening. The catastrophic consequences of a hip fracture are very chilling. There is a significant mortality rate associated with hip fracture.And, if people make it through, there can be long term institutionalization. And, spinal compression fractures can result in situations where breathing is impaired. I have seen this. So, depression following a diagnosis is understandable. At this point for those of us not at an advanced age and without having suffered fractures -we can be allright and even more than allright. But as we age-we begin to enter "the age of fracture" and the consequences can be life altering indeed ! I know what happened to my mother and I have seen plenty of older people suffering hugely from this disease. It will not happen to all of us with osteo but the risk of fracture increases greatly with age. And, I think it is that looking forward that is a tough go especially when we have seen the ravages of this disease. Of course, we need to balance this with living in the present and enjoying our time now.
Hi Ladies: I agree with most of the statements, but I think were missing something here. When someone say's that osteo is life threatening, they are referring to the comorbid problems that occur directly from the osteo or broken hip/bone. I've seen this happen more times than I would like to count, but what generally happens with hip, mostly in the elderly, and to so many of my relatives, was they broke their hip, had surgery to replace it and then sustained other problems directly related to the fracture, and that's where the statement comes from.

When someone breaks a hip and usually is an older person, they end up staying in bed or a wheel chair too long for whatever reason. As a result of the immobility, they can develop blood clots, and other probs, like osteo mentioned (compromised breathing etc) and then sufferer strokes or lung/heart probs. Some of the strokes/breathing probs are severe which causes death and some others leave the person either substantially disabled or partially. This just happened to my neighbors mia, but she died. She broke her hip on Christmas day while getting up out of a chair and the bone broke while she was standing. Everyone around the table heard the crack and then she started to panic from the pain and fell. She had surgery and was put in a nursing home where they wouldn't or didn't get her up to exercise. She passed away a couple of days ago from a blood clot. This same thing happened to my aunt and grandmother, so osteo in and of itself doesn't cause death but the things that occur as a result of the fx can cause death.

I could go on and on about the structural problems caused by kyphosis, like osteo's mom, and my grandmother, but I think we all know how that goes.

Anyway you are both right...:wave:





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