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[QUOTE=eightball61]I see that but a lot of people don't want to take that route because they denicated time to the relationship and don't want to loose the partner if they are wrong.

Please don't get this wrong but its easy for single people to say that. I am not going to spy on my GF but I am not going to leave her if I feel she is cheating. Once I find out then that will be it. There are a lot of things that lead up to cheating for signs. If a lot of these signs are visible and I am still getting lies I will have to do reasearch.
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Believe me, it's not easy for me to say, and I stayed through a lot of stuff I never thought I would in my last relationship, but I think the bottom line is that you have to have some self respect. This is more than just an issue of is he cheating on her or not? If it were just that one issue, I might be inclined to agree with you more. But there's a bigger issue she's dealing with here. she has a crazy woman calling her at work, disturbing and harrassing her, driving by the house watching her when she's there, etc. This woman has no sense of boundaries. She has crossed the line as far as what is socially acceptable behavior. She's become a menace to this girl, and her boyfriend refuses to do anything about it. He's on a date with her and makes her sit and wait in the car while he talks to this crazy woman for almost half an hour? Let's put the shoe on the other foot, Jeff. You say you love your girlfriend. What would you do if an ex of yours decided it wasn't over and started calling your current girlfriend at work and hanging up on her? If this ex started driving by your house and waiting outside and watching your girlfriend, maybe even following her home? Calling your cell while you're out with your girlfriend and demanding you have a 30 minute conversation with her? Would you just shrug and tell your current girlfriend "oh well, nothing I can do, she'll just keep calling anyway"? Is that the response of a loving, committed boyfriend?
[QUOTE=Ninispjc]Believe me, it's not easy for me to say, and I stayed through a lot of stuff I never thought I would in my last relationship, but I think the bottom line is that you have to have some self respect. This is more than just an issue of is he cheating on her or not? If it were just that one issue, I might be inclined to agree with you more. But there's a bigger issue she's dealing with here. she has a crazy woman calling her at work, disturbing and harrassing her, driving by the house watching her when she's there, etc. This woman has no sense of boundaries. She has crossed the line as far as what is socially acceptable behavior. She's become a menace to this girl, and her boyfriend refuses to do anything about it. He's on a date with her and makes her sit and wait in the car while he talks to this crazy woman for almost half an hour? Let's put the shoe on the other foot, Jeff. You say you love your girlfriend. What would you do if an ex of yours decided it wasn't over and started calling your current girlfriend at work and hanging up on her? If this ex started driving by your house and waiting outside and watching your girlfriend, maybe even following her home? Calling your cell while you're out with your girlfriend and demanding you have a 30 minute conversation with her? Would you just shrug and tell your current girlfriend "oh well, nothing I can do, she'll just keep calling anyway"? Is that the response of a loving, committed boyfriend?[/QUOTE]

A friend of mine used to have a boyfriend with an obsessed exgirlfriend like that. Too much drama, trust me. and the bf didn't do anything to discourage her either. He was making all kinds of excuses, including that the ex's mom was terminally ill and she needed emotional support, etc. He was such a loser. Turned out, his "emotional support" consisted of sleeping with the psycho ex from time to time. Oh, what a nice, supportive man! Anyway, he's obviously my friend's ex now, and she has married someone MUCH better who does not any crazy exgirlfriends stalking him.





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