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[QUOTE=goody2shuz]Sophia....This is just because you haven't met the right man as of yet ;) Please don't allow your past experiences generalize men as being "simple creatures" There are alot of men that post on this board that will show and tell you that there is so much more to them. And Ron...he's just a "shoot from the hip" type of guy....his advice may be a wee bit on the chauvanistic side but some of it does make sense....I really got a kick out of the puppy thing but don't think alot of guys would like to feel like Pavlov's dog here ;)

As far as the original poster is concerned...Ron did help get her out of bed and that's a good thing. :bouncing: That's why it takes many opinions and words of advice to reach success and everyone's technique is not the same but what works for one may not work for another...goes for men & women just the same ;) ....Goody :angel:[/QUOTE]

Hi Goody,

So... I am chauvanistic?

When something is said which you agree with, it is often easy to blindly follow
while defending your belief like an angry bull.
That is the reason why certain talk show hosts either have devoted followers
or passionate haters. The same thing happened during the federal election,
when one side hated the incumbent and would have voted for a "salami sandwich" to oust him. (I guess the salami lovers are still disgruntled.)

When I said that men are simple and could be made happy with a meal and some intimacy, why is that so hard to believe?
I did say that the man had to be a GOOD one... The woman has to
find out through trial and error if the approach would work. If it does not work quickly, he may be a difficult case, a disbeliever, emotionally unstable or depressed, abusive, controlling, seeing a girlfriend regularly, or just plain
mean. (This is when family counselling might help.)

The secret is in not hiding the fact that you are changing becase you love him. Tell him that the "old you" was not working and you value him.
In many cases, it becomes easy to appear less loving as the years pass, due to other family responsibilities, child raising, lack of time alone, etc.
Marriage is a partnership and that requires teamwork. Complacency creates
boredom and uncertainty.

Does what you are doing work any better than what I have suggested?

Ron
[QUOTE=Ron]Hi Goody,

So... I am chauvanistic?

When something is said which you agree with, it is often easy to blindly follow
while defending your belief like an angry bull.
That is the reason why certain talk show hosts either have devoted followers
or passionate haters. The same thing happened during the federal election,
when one side hated the incumbent and would have voted for a "salami sandwich" to oust him. (I guess the salami lovers are still disgruntled.)

When I said that men are simple and could be made happy with a meal and some intimacy, why is that so hard to believe?
I did say that the man had to be a GOOD one... The woman has to
find out through trial and error if the approach would work. If it does not work quickly, he may be a difficult case, a disbeliever, emotionally unstable or depressed, abusive, controlling, seeing a girlfriend regularly, or just plain
mean. (This is when family counselling might help.)

The secret is in not hiding the fact that you are changing becase you love him. Tell him that the "old you" was not working and you value him.
In many cases, it becomes easy to appear less loving as the years pass, due to other family responsibilities, child raising, lack of time alone, etc.
Marriage is a partnership and that requires teamwork. Complacency creates
boredom and uncertainty.

Does what you are doing work any better than what I have suggested?

Ron[/QUOTE]


Ron many women have tried your "advice" in their relationships only for it not to work. I think every relationship is different. A woman can treat a man like a King and he not respond only because "shes not the one for him". I do think alot more goes into men and women then what you suggest. I have met men that treat me wonderful, but I just don't have the spark for them and vice versa. If it was all as simple as you seem to make it then most of us would be in happy fulfilling relationships and the divorce rate would be much lower. When it comes to love and relationships its not just black and white..theres a lot of grey in between. :)





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