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I truly believe that women are more picky than men. Men get a bad rap. True they are visual. But women are even more superficial when it comes to looks. Men will be attracted to most women just because they are women. There is no mystery. Even if a woman is average or homely even....most men will find a woman attractive just because she is a woman. If a woman has even one physical attribute, most men will find her sexy. But the opposite is not true for women. They put much more importance on the way a man looks facially than men do. Women only go weak in the knees for truely model perfect, men with chiseled faces. If a man is ugly or even average...unless he has money or power...MOST women won't find him attractive at all. "Nice Guy" is code for average or ugly. Men truly get a bad rap for being shallow when it comes to looks....but I truly believe men are much more accepting and easy to find more women attractive. While women are much more picky and perfectionist. And not only about looks. But money and career too. There is so much pressure on men. Women have the power sexually. At least until a certain age. Men don't want models. That is a fallacy. Women and gay men control the fashion industry, and put pressure on themselves. Sadly most women try to land the "hot guy" when they are young. As they get older, they try to land the "rich AND hot guy". Then they just try for the "rich guy"....and lastly, they regret the funny nice average guys they ignored all those years ago. Tragic. :-)
Talking generally? Physically what do men and women find beautiful? Of course this varies and everyone has their own likes and dislikes....but I have a theory.

Underneath it all, on a purely physical level I believe that women are attracted to handsome male faces, and men are more attracted to female bodies.

Think about it. Men will look at and be attracted to an average or even ugly woman with a nice body. While for a woman to consider a man HOT, he has to have a handsome face. Even an average or ugly guy with a GREAT body won't be considered HOT by women in general.

I think this is the big difference between men and women on a physical level. I wish it was the other way around. Because you can change a body by working out, but you are kinda stuck with your face. So in that regard, women have it ALOT easier. Men are far less picky. While women are MUCH more picky.

I know this seems opposite of what is normally believed. Men get a bad rap for being shallow. But women are even more so.

Again think about it. If a woman has ONE nice bodily feature, or works out...MEN will think she is HOT. That is a huge boost in her ego, and women do have an easy power over men. I truly believe that the pressure women feel is not from men. This is a lie. I believe women put pressure on other women. They compete and cause their own pain.

While men are stuck with the face they are given. If they are average or ugly...they can work out all they want. They can have an olympic athletes body, and they will never be looked at as HOT by women in general. The ONLY way to make women look at them differently would be if they were rich or famous. But take away that fame or money, and they'd go back to being average joes.

THIS is the big difference between men and women. An average or even ugly woman who has a nice body will be LUSTED after. So in this way, women have it alot easier. Men in general will pay them attention and consider them HOT and SEXY. They don't need to be rich or famous. Something as simple as a nice body, boobs, butt or legs will get a woman noticed.

Most Women have this INCREDIBLE power over men. Their enemy is not men. The only thing they fear is getting older. Age slowly takes their sexual power away. Many women blame men for then being shallow(only wanting young women). But for most of their young lives they had SUPREME power over men. Men are the ones who faced rejection, pain and suffering. So to suddenly loose that power, many women blame men. I think this is unfair. I think the happiest women are the ones who treat men nicely and don't abuse their sexual power when they are younger. That way when they get older, they won't feel bad when their sexual power begins to fade.
dobedobedo I don't think your right...you sound very bitter about women. Women don't only look for good looking rich men and not give average men a chance. If I was to be totally critical of the men I've dated I would say yes some were good looking but the guy I married (though I find him sexy and handsome) if he was rated by anyone else he's average tall but thin receeding hair line etc. What draws women to him still and when we were dating(it was ridculous he use to get hit on right in front of me) is his attitude he's confident funny and has charisma. Yes be clean try and dress nice but try and be confident too. Looks aren't everything and in the end they are not what will keep a girl around. Looks are the instant attraction sure but there has to be something after that. If you don't have the instant attraction then you know what girls you meet and talk to etc will see that in time and be drawn to you, you'll build a relationship rather than just have physical. I think what takes a guy from average to sexy is attitude
take away all the modern technology and culture, and underneath it all, we are animals...sexual animals. There is nothing more life affirming then being wanted sexually. To be the object of desire from the opposite sex. At least in ones youth, it can lift ones spirit and make one feel powerful. its primal. and on a sexual level, men have it worse. MUCH worse than women. women have it much easier. They have all the sexual power. why? simply because MOST men find MOST women sexy. MOST men see most women in a sexual way. There are less criteria that makes a women hot. Now men are often bashed for this, but if you really look at it, it means that men find most women attractive just for being a woman. a woman by the sheer virtue of her femininity has the power. now most women dont want attention from ALL men. Women are more selective. more picky. And that is their perogative. After all, biologically they make more of a sacrifice giving birth.

BUT, in todays modern world it is brutal for men. Think about it. A woman could have an average or homely face, and yet if she has nice breasts, or butt or takes care of her body...she WILL have sexual power, and men will look at her in a sexual way. Now before any feminists jump all over that statement as sexist...NO!!! Just the opposite is true. Most women will feel the desire of the opposite sex....feel the joy in that power.

Now the same can't be said for men. Unfortunately for a man to have that same animalistic sexual attraction from women, they have to have a handsome face. If you are an average or homely guy in the face...you will NEVER get the same universal sexual reaction from the mass majority of women. You could work out in the gym all you want...but no matter how buff or masculine your body....if your face is average or homely...you will NEVER have the same kind of power that an average or homely woman with a nice body has. EVER!

Thats because male celebrity or "hotness" is MOSTLY based on the face...where as female hotness is mostly based on the body.

Now you can EASILY change the body if you are overweight either thru excercise or surgery. But men with an average or homely face will always be average or homely to the mass female population. They won't feel the power of that kind of attraction.

Even the handsome men still have to jump thru all sorts of hoops and are judged in ways that women never are. Sure the hot guys will get easy sex...but when it comes to relationships, even handsome men are also judged by their job, their career, their status, their car, etc. While most men don't care or judge women in this way...even in this day of equality between the sexes.

So average or homely men have it worst of all. Even if they are lucky enough to get the attention of an attractive woman, they still have more hurdles to jump thru. It is so stressful.

Women complain that men oggle them...yet in reality, they don't mind being looked at at all. They just want to be looked at by hot guys. Most men would die to be oggled by a woman. To be lusted after. But for the mass majority of men, that will NEVER happen.They will never feel this power. While average or even homely women feel this power all the time. Average women KNOW they have this power and that is why they always go for the bad boy or hot guy even when he treats her like crap. Women are a sucker for a hot male face just as men are suckers for a hot body.

Women don't have to try hard at all. Men on the other hand are handicapped from the get go.If you don't have a handsome face, forget it...you are at a loss. All an average woman has to do is put on some jeans and a t shirt, and they will turn the head of most men. Think of that power.

Good looking men have this power. Only men with handsome faces have this kind of power. Women act like crazed sexual creatures when a man with a handsome face walks in a room. You ALL have seen it. But what women fail to admit is that MOST women have this power. They don't have to have a models face. THIS is my point. So the vast majority of men will never feel this power that handsome men and MOST women possess. EVER.
[QUOTE=dobedobedo;3103364] While for a woman to consider a man HOT, he has to have a handsome face. Even an average or ugly guy with a GREAT body won't be considered HOT by women in general.[/QUOTE]

Yes. I totally agree. Everybody makes the false assumption that a guy who shaves his head is hot to women if he has confidence, etc, is clean cut yada yad yada,

BUT, that's assuming he looks good that way! If he's got an ugly face (crooked nose, etc ) women will not find him attractive. And w/o the "initial physical attraction" that most women require, they will have no interest in this type of guy.

[QUOTE=dobedobedo;3103364]Because you can change a body by working out, but you are kinda stuck with your face. So in that regard, women have it ALOT easier. Men are far less picky. While women are MUCH more picky.

I know this seems opposite of what is normally believed.
Men get a bad rap for being shallow. But women are even more so.[/QUOTE]

This is true as well. All women have to do is go to the gym, watch their diet, etc... and they seem to get much more oppurtunities in life. It seems as if everything just "comes to them" They have freinds, meet sexual partners, etc. The same is NOT true for men who go to the gym, watch their diet, take care of themselves, etc...


[QUOTE=dobedobedo;3103364]While men are stuck with the face they are given. If they are average or ugly...they can work out all they want. They can have an olympic athletes body, and they will never be looked at as HOT by women in general. The ONLY way to make women look at them differently would be if they were rich or famous. But take away that fame or money, and they'd go back to being average joes.

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Again, I agree with this. I am one of those ugly guys that is bald, shave my head, work out regularly, I'm very clean cut, confident, wear nice sharp clothes, have a good career, etc. But, I have crooked nose, and a weird shaped face and head, and scars on my scalp. I'm a very ugly guy from the shoulders up.

Women always reject me if I ask them out, and they NEVER notice me - I always have to get their attention. Then, they act "annoyed" because a loser such as myself is trying to talk to them. Anyways, I'm confident, I smile at them, I say interesting things to them and some even laugh, etc.

But, they are NEVER interested. Women never want to go out with me - even if i'm friends with them first for years, they never, ever want to hook up. I havn't had a date in 15 years!

They always give me the "i'm sorry, but I have a boyfriend" routine. Or, "I'm married" - but I look at their hand and they're never wearing a wedding ring!

Other guys think i'm gay, because i'm never with a women on a date. I have to pay $$, to get any ... - you get the idea.

A few times a couple of my friends and relatives have tried to hook me up on "blind dates" But, the women run away and refuse to go on the date before it even starts (as soon as they see me), or they will deny the invitation once they see a picture of my face (after initially accepting it).

Its very sad and lonely to be me. But, its like one previous poster said, I'll have to live this way for the rest of my life. :(





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