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Is this "voice" really your own inner voice saying things that you would never want to think like, "I want to kill myself", or "I pulled that prank so that means that God will punish me since I'm such a bad person"? Do you know that these thoughts are being generated from your own mind rather than having these thoughts be implanted by the government or TV/radio waves? You mentioned that these thoughts are beyond your control- do they just seem to pop into your mind, against your will, interrupting your normal thought processes? Do you find that, after having one of these thoughts, you feel compelled to do something such as mentally pray, say a phrase over and over again in your head, count, and/or utilize a counterimage, changing a "bad" image to a "good" one (such as seeing yourself slitting your wrists and then making the image return to your wrists being injury-free)? Does the panic attacks that result from these thoughts seem to subside once you do something to neutralize/counteract the thought? For example, do you have a panic attack until you confess your alleged "sin" to someone or until you say, "I don't want to think this! I'm not a bad person, I'm not a bad person..."? As for the restless sleep, are you finding that you're having trouble sleeping because all you can see when you close your eyes are racing, fleeting images of these grotesque thoughts that cause you distress? It's as if your brain can't settle down and stop creating thoughts? If this sounds like you, I would almost guarantee that what you have is not schizophrenia, but Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, the pure obsessional type. I am a long-time sufferer of pure "O" OCD, and the restless sleep thing? I just experienced this last night, so believe me, I feel your pain...If you think this sounds like you, even the genetics would be explained: yes, schizophrenia and OCD are quite different from each other, but they have startingly similarities. What I mean is that, the main difference between the two is that OCD-ers aren't psychotic- they know that these thoughts and images are senseless, but schizophrenics don't realize this, making it a psychosis. However, it has been found that OCD and schizophrenia both involve deformities in the prefrontal cortex, an area of the brain responsible for understanding that a thought isn't logical. The difference between the two disorders is the difference in the areas- schizophrenia is due to a malfunction of the dorsal area of the prefrontal cortex and OCD is the ventral area. Thus, in the pure obsessional type of OCD, especially, some symptoms do resemble schizophrenia in the fact that you lose the ability to control your thoughts and you get these senseless images. Both are a thought disorder, but the brain area difference accounts for why schizophrenia is a psychosis and OCD is an anxiety disorder. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! I, too, believed that I was becoming schizophrenic when I first developed obsessions. It's actually a common phenomena for us pure "O's". Good luck, God bless, and write back soon! :angel:
SuchGreatHeight- The only reason that I've been pushing OCD lately is because every one of those posts indicated pure obsessional OCD rather than schizophrenia. As a pure obsessional who believed that what she had was schizophrenia, when I see a potential case, I like to inform people that it may just be intrusive, obsessive thoughts, not psychosis. Obviously, I'm not a doctor and can't diagnose anybody properly, but when people say that they have panic attacks that are related to thoughts that they can't get out of their head, Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder seems to be the key. Yes, obsessive ruminations occur in depression, but they most likely take the form of "I'm a bad person. I can't do anything right. I'm a failure...", but don't include the rituals to get rid of the thoughts. Sorry for the confusion and if I made you upset! God bless! :angel:

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