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Hi guys!

Very interesting conversation!
Dreams, you are quite right. I would also like to add that every person varies in their degree of predisposition to Schizophrenia on a few levels. Some people may not have a strong genetic predisposition of being born with schizophrenia, but are sensitive to other factors which can cause it to appear.
Some people may not develop schizophrenia from anything other than smoking marijuana.
I try to break it down into two things: A person's genetic predisposition, and a person's environmental predisposition... although arguably they are very similar, i think it's important to make the a distinction. The manual distinguishes between biologically induced and artificially induced (alcohol, drugs) schizophrenia, and I think that's interesting because they place an importance on distinguishing the origin of schizophrenia, but not on the origin of depression (i.e. it doesn't matter how or why the person got depression, depression is depression).
duliel,

A distinction is made between genetic/environmental factors that cause bipolar vs. bipolar symptoms that are caused by the use of illicit drugs. The DSM states that if a person experiences manic episodes due to alcohol or drugs, this does not warrant a diagnosis of bipolar.

It sounds like most pdocs feel the same way when it comes to schizophrenia (i.e "true" schizophrenia that is caused by genetics or environmental factors vs. symptoms that mirror schizophrenia due to drugs and/or alcohol).
[QUOTE=dreams in neon;3907684]duliel,

A distinction is made between genetic/environmental factors that cause bipolar vs. bipolar symptoms that are caused by the use of illicit drugs. The DSM states that if a person experiences manic episodes due to alcohol or drugs, this does not warrant a diagnosis of bipolar.

It sounds like most pdocs feel the same way when it comes to schizophrenia (i.e "true" schizophrenia that is caused by genetics or environmental factors vs. symptoms that mirror schizophrenia due to drugs and/or alcohol).[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I always found that a little unsettling, like people with a different origin should be treated as people with 'untrue' schizophrenia or something. I mean, I'm all for making a distinction, but I found that there is too much importance placed on the term "true" schizophrenia, and I don't think I'm the only one.

However, as for the diagnosis of bipolar, I have mixed feelings... I don't know why. I'll have to take some time to think about why I feel this way and get back to you.





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