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OK I need to quit smoking - I know that but my mind is extremely stubborn and I literally have a rebel like attitude that says I can smoke if I want to.
It's almost like I use smoking as a reward if I do something good -- definitely a habit.

Anyway........curious to know if anyone has tried hypnosis and if it worked.

Is Chantix like Wellbutrin and anti depressant? Can I take Chantix with Wellbutrin (I take it for depression) and I also take Adderall for ADHD.

I have quit cold turkey before for surgery and when I was pregnant and had no desire for one but the minute I was past the "danger" period I rewarded myself with a cigarette and wham I'm back to smoking. I hate the smell, I never smoke in public, and I want to quit but my sick mind seems to enjoy my little secret of smoking. Sick, huh?

Anyone have any advice or helpful hints?
Hi river525,
Glad you recoginze that you need to quit. At least you are thinking about it. That's a start.
Chantix acts on the areas of the brain affected by nicotine and helps those who smoke cigarettes to quit smoking in two ways: by providing some nicotine effects to ease the withdrawal symptoms and by blocking the effects of nicotine from cigarettes if they start smoking again. It is not anything like Wellbutrin. It is not nicotine replacement either. As far as I know the Chantix does not interfer with any medications. BUT you need to check with your doctor or pharmacist.

About the hypnosis....I have not tried that. But my brother did a few years back. It worked for him for about 2 years. Then he started back smoking. I don't know why he didn't go get hypnotized again.

You know all smokers "reward" themselves with a cigarette. That's what we do. (or did, I should say!!) Got out of bed. yippie..go smoke a cigarette. cleaned the kitchen up....good going...go smoke a cigarette. had a bad day...I know how to cure that...go smoke a cigarette. You need to start watching and noting when and why you smoke. Also try putting it off as long as you can and only smoke when you NEED one, not WANT one.

I urge you to stop smoking by whatever means is right for you. You will not believe how much better you will feel. I didn't know I felt so bad until I began to feel so good. I can take a deep breath now and not start coughing. I can laugh myself silly and not start coughing. I smell soooo much better. My husband says I taste better too. My kisses are a lot sweeter. He loves to smell my hair now. He has always been a non smoker.

There are all kinds of reasons to quit. Find yours.

Good Luck to you!!

Memaw
There is no reason why you couldn't take Chantix and have hypnosis as well. Chantix deals with the physical side and maybe hypnosis would help your subconsious "want" to stay quit no matter what. I listened to self hypnosis CDs for quitting for the first few days. I am not sure that they really did anything but they were soooo relaxing. That in itself was therapy.
GOOD LUCK AND KEEP US POSTED :wave:
[QUOTE=True Brit;2869539]There is no reason why you couldn't take Chantix and have hypnosis as well. Chantix deals with the physical side and maybe hypnosis would help your subconsious "want" to stay quit no matter what. I listened to self hypnosis CDs for quitting for the first few days. I am not sure that they really did anything but they were soooo relaxing. That in itself was therapy.
GOOD LUCK AND KEEP US POSTED :wave:[/QUOTE]

That's a good point True Brit. Hypnosis didn't do much for me alone, but with Chantix, I bet it would have helped.

21 days smoke free:)
[B]River525[/B]: wow, you sound like me. I had that rebel type attitude too. I saw the Mad Russian 3 years ago (he is NOT a hypnotist but manipulates your bioenergy so you feel sort of like that you were never a smoker). In any case, my mother and I went together---she hasn’t smoked since. I had absolutely no urges and no withdrawal but kept telling my mind how the hell can he blow in my face (literally that is what he does) and I don’t want to smoke anymore. Long story short, I started smoking just to prove that that crap doesn’t work. Stupid, huh?! As far as Chantix, my doc gave me the Rx in Dec., I filled it in Jan. and didn’t start until Feb. I had to mentally prepare for it PLUS I had an attitude that I enjoyed smoking and that it probably wouldn’t work (deep down I hoped it would but wanted it to be easy cuz I have 0 willpower). Lo and behold, I was pleasantly surprised and am 5 weeks quit. I won’t say I haven’t had ‘times’ but all in all it has been fairly easy. It is def. worth trying but do be sure and check with your doc (and the pharmacist) about mixing with other Rx’s. Good luck and keep us posted.

Oh and re: hypnosis. My BF and I went to a group session 5 1/2 years ago. Worked for him. I think every person is different -- you just have to find the right 'quit' method for you.
River and Paula - Yeah - sounds like me too!! Rebel without a cause so I'll smoke instead... And Memaw, this part is so true -
[COLOR="Red"]You know all smokers "reward" themselves with a cigarette. That's what we do. (or did, I should say!!) Got out of bed. yippie..go smoke a cigarette. cleaned the kitchen up....good going...go smoke a cigarette. had a bad day...I know how to cure that...go smoke a cigarette. You need to start watching and noting when and why you smoke. Also try putting it off as long as you can and only smoke when you NEED one, not WANT one. [/COLOR]

So, yes you have to make up your mind that you want to quit this secret self-destructive behavior. You are worth saving, life is worth living. I used to think, I know smoking is killing me, but who cares? It's my life and I can do whatever I want!! Plus I enjoyed it too much. But only in secret. I hated hiding it and the looks you would get when you were out and decided to light up. I was always worried people were staring at me - poor thing, look at her......."SMOKING!"!! Welp! NO MORE. I have quit for good and it's great!!!

I hope you make the decision to do it River - we will all be here for support if you need us. Everyone has been down that long, difficult road, but it's so worth it, every step of the way. Good luck to you!! :blob_fire
WOW!! Thanks for all the great responses!! I am going to call my doctor right now and get a prescription and call this hypnotist that has been highly recommended. I have got to do this and darnit (lol) I know I can b/c I have quit in the past I just need to quit once and for all. The stupid thing is my husband doesn't smoke nor does any of my friends, etc. so I'm constantly the outsider and so concerned about smelling like smoke, etc. and feel like such a hypocrit (sp?). I am such the closet smoker and embarrassed that I still smoke - so here goes nothing (or should I say everything) I have GOT TO DO THIS!!!

I'll keep you updated. Keep your fingers and toes crossed for me!!!
Hi i want you to no i went for hypnosis three years ago to quit smoking in a group setting and it didn't work. I was told by some of my friends that to go to only one that is private. Today is wed. and i have an appointment at 3 p.m. i also have to quit smoking. The hypnosis today is 2-3 hours.
oh please let me know how it goes.....I wasn't going to do the group one - too embarrassed to do that....so I just called the hypnotist that is very highly recommended who does private sessions and am waiting for him to call me back.....but I really want to hear how it goes for you. I also called my doctor for a prescription for Chantix. The nurse told me her daughter used it and has not wanted one since summer of last year! Lord I hope this works.

Good luck today and PLEASE report back on how it went

take care
[QUOTE=river525;2870093]WOW!! Thanks for all the great responses!! I am going to call my doctor right now and get a prescription and call this hypnotist that has been highly recommended. I have got to do this and darnit (lol) I know I can b/c I have quit in the past I just need to quit once and for all. The stupid thing is my husband doesn't smoke nor does any of my friends, etc. so I'm constantly the outsider and so concerned about smelling like smoke, etc. and feel like such a hypocrit (sp?). I am such the closet smoker and embarrassed that I still smoke - so here goes nothing (or should I say everything) I have GOT TO DO THIS!!!

I'll keep you updated. Keep your fingers and toes crossed for me!!![/QUOTE]

Chances are that your hypnotherapist will tell you that you won't be needing drugs as well as the therapy so you may have to make a choice at some point. Do let us know though, promise? :wave:
oh I promise I will let you know. I'm meeting with him this Friday at 11:30!! He said it usually takes just ONE session so I'm hopeful. One of the main triggers for my smoking is Diet Cokes (been drinking them for over 20 years)and so we are going to try to get that habit gone too! YIKES......I feel like I'm about to bury my two best friends. I'm excited yet sad? about all this. Luckily I see my therapist this Thursday.

Do I sound screwed up or what, LOL. But hey, atleast I'll be healthy, right? Not to mention my personal trainer is thrilled to death with all this - she has been bugging me to death to quit so I can start doing trail runs with her, something I've been really wanting to do but couldn't because I would get out of breath and quit.

As far as the hypnotist possibly not taking the drugs; I'm not sure about that one. I didn't mention it to him and my doctor is calling it in this afternoon so should I hold off on starting the pills or should I go ahead and start? I'm thinking I need to go ahead and take them as my back up plan. Surely it couldn't hurt, right?

I wish I could bottle up all of you and mail you here to Nashville so everyone one of you could keep me motivated -- thanks so much :)
Hi River,

You are talking to a lot of closet smokers here, so you are not alone! Very few people knew I smoked, or at least I don't think they did. I would suggest the med and the hypnosis. I enjoyed smoking too, and had the same attitude, because I can. But I so wanted to quit too. The med, funny enough, makes me not want my Diet Coke either. I drink Pepsi but same thing. I will have one once in a while, and I used to have one every single day. And it made the smokes taste bad, so I just didn't want them anymore for the most part. So, think about that, I'm saving money not drinking soda, and not smoking! I'd say give the med a try, or start it after your hypnosis. Good luck and there are a lot of good people on these boards. Lots and lots of true help when you need it most.
thanks!! I just saw where you are from -- my son is in Boca Grande this week on Spring Break fishing!! And I love Tampa - we were there last year - great area and GREAT SHOPPING!!!

I'll let ya know how it goes
Hi River,

Congratulations on your decision to quit. I was a real rebel just like you. I was NOT a closet smoker. I told people it was my decision and that I will deal with the consequences later in life. I considered smoking to be a reward also. Unfortunately it was a nicotine addiction that reward you with death.

Then I got older and had to deal with the consequences. Then I got asthma and had to use an inhaler twice a day. Then I thought I really have to quit. My doctor confirmed it had to be real soon. It took me a few months to decide to quit but I knew that I had to "want to quit".

I quit using Chantix seven weeks ago. I could not have done it on my own with out this drug. Too much going on all the time. This drug worked just as expected for me.

Now I know this may sound funny (even corny) but now I consider myself a "rebel non-smoker". Oh I still strongly support the rights of smokers. But [B][SIZE="4"]I[/SIZE][/B] WILL NOT SMOKE ANOTHER CIGARETTE...

Good luck on your quit. We're here for you!!!

Kevin__
Well River, you just start saving ALL that money that you won't be spending on smokes and plan a trip back to Tampa. International Mall is waiting for you!!! Yeah, unfortunately for all you guys up north, it is a delightful week for weather here. My boys are at the beach for Spring Break, I went swimming today outdoors, everything is in bloom. BUT, remember how we will be melting (just like the witch in wiz. of oz) in the summer:dizzy: Or blowing away like the house in the same movie.
Hi river525,
You said "I wish I could bottle up all of you and mail you here to Nashville so everyone one of you could keep me motivated -- thanks so much."
Well all you have to do is come here everyday and we will be here for you!!
And Nashville isn't THAT far from me! I was just up there a few ago. I've got a cousin up there at Hermitage and a very dear friend that lives in Antioch. And I love to go shopping up there at Opry Mills. Isn't it strange that we think that shopping in another city is so much better than what we have at home?
Anyway, I wish you luck on the hypnosis and Chantix combination. That should be interesting to see how you do with both of those. I think it sounds like a winning combo.

Memaw
[QUOTE=CHALUPA;2870109]Hi i want you to no i went for hypnosis three years ago to quit smoking in a group setting and it didn't work. I was told by some of my friends that to go to only one that is private. Today is wed. and i have an appointment at 3 p.m. i also have to quit smoking. The hypnosis today is 2-3 hours.[/QUOTE]

CHALUPA,
Welcome to you!!
Please let us know how the hypnosis works for you. How long have you been a smoker? Quitting smoking is THE most important thing you can do for yourself. You will not believe how much better you will feel. I didn't know I felt bad until I began feeling sooooo good!!

Memaw:)
Well I just picked up the Chantix prescription! WOW not cheap. I can't believe insurance doesn't cover it. Seems they would rather pay for this than hospitalization for smokers?

Keep forgetting to ask -- how much weight did everyone gain on this? I just lost 60lbs and I will go crazy if I put weight back on. My trainer swears she will keep me moving so I won't but I've heard people gain regardless. So has this happened to any of you?

Thanks for the kind words [B]Memaw[/B] -- maybe I saw you at Opry Mills, lol....I was just out there this past weekend.

[B]Chalupa[/B] -- What happened with the hypnotist? Hope you aren't hypnotized and unable to post ;)

[B]Tampquit[/B] -- glad to hear the weather is great down there. I wish I could be on a beach right now! It's beautiful here now - supposed to be sunny and 75 tomorrow!! I love Spring.

That's it for now........time for bed. night all :wave:
Howdy River525, and welcome.
I've had some thoughts reading through the thread, and I don't want to be a de-railer, as that is not my intent.
First off, I'm 57 days on Chantix. This is about my 8th or more times to try quitting smoking at all. The day before my 'quit date' I happened upon a self-help/self-hypnosis recording regarding quitting smoking, and classified it under "Act-o'-God", put it on the computer and listened to it almost every night for a week. (basically, light new-age music and self-affirmation)
I still drag out its messages each day when temptation comes calling.
And oh yeah, for me, everyday, temptation comes calling.
And this brings me to Point 2nd! Time to decide if you are REALLY a rebel or just wanted to be a pain in the butt! ;) Try something completely different and rebel against your nature to smoke! Like I said, every day for at least the last couple of weeks, there has come a time I would *really* like a cigarette. I wish I could tell you that Chantix can make it all a fairy story, but that wouldn't make it much of a test of how one might 'rebel' against their base animal nature that hooked on this crap. This is a trick I dreamed up to use on myself, that every desire for a cigarette is a test to be passed, to be more than I've ever been able to. Every one I get past is a rebellion against the 34 year mistake I'd been making. Every cigarette not smoked a testimony that one more time I could do what I *should* rather than what I wanted.
Ah, point three, way back in the beginning you mention Wellbutrin and Adderall in your regimen already, and you really owe yourself to discuss with your doctor about what kind of mix you might get out of it all with Chantix as I believe there is some psychoacitivy to all three meds and maybe nobody every *tried* all three together before. I tried wellbutrin to quit several times, but after the first try failed, the others just cranked me up.. (I don't have high regards for the lackadaisical attitude of handing out antidpressants with the rapidity that can happen in our culture. I've felt over-medicated in the past before for wrong reasons before, so maybe my bias is showing...

Well, not to freak you out, just thougt some of my thoughts might hold up a little in your regimen of coping mechanisms you will armor yourself with.
All methods are worth working if we remember what we can use them for!

We're pulling for you, and I'm personally looking for candidates to take my place when my 55 year old ponytail falls out and there are no more wars to protest. :D

Best Regards,
DeadFish
I tried hypnosis years ago..smoked in the parking lot on the way out, sheer rebel in me! Chantix was my answer. I didn't weigh myself until this past week (30 days smoke free, 41 days on chantix), right now I am not any heavier than I was prior to chantix, but I would bet if I had weighed myself around week 2-3, I was heavier as I was pretty bloated on & off.
[QUOTE=river525;2871949]
Keep forgetting to ask -- how much weight did everyone gain on this? I just lost 60lbs and I will go crazy if I put weight back on. My trainer swears she will keep me moving so I won't but I've heard people gain regardless. So has this happened to any of you?[/QUOTE]

I didn't gain any weight while on the Chantix. It just happened that when I got off the Chantix it was Thanksgiving. Then Christmas. Then New Year's Day. I ate like crazy!! I had a very good time.!! Put on LOTS of weight. Have since lost it. Now trying to lose more.

Memaw:)
Hey River 525, you could start a new thread for the weight gain issue. It's a subject close to all of our hearts and would be a big hit.
Have I gained weight? well! start a thread and i'll tell you:wave:
For the first 2-3 weeks or so I gained weight (I'm guessing 8-12#; I had gained a bit before quitting so I'm guesstimating). Anyway, I've lost 3# in the past week and I'm not snacking as much. I tried being very conscious of 'snacking' as a replacement for 'smoking' and thought I did pretty good but at night watching TV was difficult and I hadn't truly realized how much I was snacking until my bf mentioned it. Last shopping trip I p/u healthier snacky things-----radishes, minneolas but now haven't had the snacky urge much at all so I'm hoping the extra weight starts to melt away! Spring is here or so my calendar says despite temps in the teens this a.m.

Anyway, quitting is much more important than some weight gain. You can deal with any gain later on. Good luck and keep on coming back here!
Hi River - no weight gain here - quit for 3 weeks so far. I'm off the Chantix already too - no need for it anymore.

You do whatever works for you -most people here are exercising to help with the weight control, I have not exercised at all, and haven't gained any. I am trying to eat healthier too - but admit I splurge on steak & lobster and chips and dip and crackers and cheese spread and beers and cake at a wedding last weekend - so, I'm actually not eating so healthy after all. DAMN....I thought I was!! Well, anyways, just be aware of your eating habits. That first quit week - I didn't care - I said I could eat anything, do anything, buy anything I wanted, because I was quitting smoking, and that was the single most important thing in the whole world at the time. The rest I would deal with later.....weight gain, shopping bills, whatever it was I indulged on....

Good luck - you can do it!! :blob_fire :blob_fire
whew! glad to hear there are some that have not gained weight - atleast there is hope for me with that.

I took my first Chantix pill this morning :) -

I'm off to run errands and stuff - I don't smoke in my car so I'm trying to condition myself to keep busy so I won't just try to smoke. I can't wait to see the hypnotist tomorrow - that should be interesting
Hi river525,
How did it go with the hypnotist?

Memaw
[QUOTE=Memaw649;2876875]Hi river525,
How did it go with the hypnotist?

Memaw[/QUOTE]
very interesting to say the least. Not sure if "it" is making that much of an impact but I'm glad I did it. It was not at all what I thought it was going to be. No "when you smoke you will gag" he more of less stressed the health and wellness of not smoking (which we all know). I didn't feel completely hypnotized yet when he brought me back he asked me how long I thought I had been under and I said 15 minutes and when he told me I had been under 52 minutes that shocked me. So who knows?

I will say the Chantix must be definitely working because I have no desire for a smoke and if I try to smoke it does nothing for me and doesn't have the same taste. So I'm loving that.

I think with the combination of the Chantix and the hypnotist I have the best chance of finally kicking the habit - I just hope this time it is for good. I've quit before with little problem but it is after 5-6 months I start up again so I am going to do a little bit of planning this time to hopefully eliminate that urge.

thanks for asking........I'm just hoping this works........and one other thing it is so disgusting now to walk back in the house and smell all the stale smoke. YUCK YUCK...........my plan this weekend is to start washing all the walls and all my clothes, etc. to hopefully start getting this nasty smell out.

have a great weekend!!
Thanks for the update and details on the hypnosis, river525!
Hypnosis is such a weird thing that somehow just seems to help enhance a good-natured willingness to go along with suggestions. No magic act, just a 'best-foot-forward' kind of thing.
Hey, every weapon we can use against our bad habits is a good thing in my book! All's fair in love, war and giving up cigarettes! ;)

Best Regards,
DeadFish
Thanks for the update River. That was really interesting. Sounds like you really hit the pavement running full speed. Please keep in touch and let us know how you're doing.


Kevin__
river525,
Thanks for the update!! Now when are you setting your quit date?
Sounds like you've got a lot of cleaning to do. Luckily, I haven't smoked in my house in a number of years...so I didn't have to try to get the smell out. But I did wash all my clothes and especially my coats!! Then I tackled my car. I did smoke in the car! I would usually go out back on the covered porch and smoke. I could smell it out there!! I got some ammonia and cleaned everything out there. I had to do that to my walls when I quit smoking in the house. The ammonia was the only thing, other than painting with kilz, that would take the nicotine off the walls.
Please keep us posted on your progress!!

Good Luck to you!

Memaw
Hi River 525
If you are one of those people who starts smoking again after 5 to 6 months quit you could maybe have a booster of hypnosis when you stop the Chantix and another booster after 5 months to reinforce the message.:wave:





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