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I forgot to put in my previous post, that I had all the chest pain, shoulder pain, arm pain and numbness, and finger tingling on my left side [B]prior[/B] to my surgery. I went for a number of years thinking it was heart problem. I was taken to emergency room by ambulance.

It took about five years before the first MRI revealed what was wrong. Then another 13 years before they would do surgery on me.

I never had the chest pain [B]after[/B] surgery, so I left it out of my post.

One thing you should be aware of is that it takes some time for the nerves to settle down after surgery (they were in there messing around), plus they were pinched for a while too! They will settle down, then you have to see if they will recover totally...I still have a little residual nerve damage (20 months later). My index finger tingles a little when I move into certain positions.

I remember one month out, still being pretty weak and sore...It takes a while for this process. Hang in there.
[QUOTE=dennisgb]I forgot to put in my previous post, that I had all the chest pain, shoulder pain, arm pain and numbness, and finger tingling on my left side [B]prior[/B] to my surgery. I went for a number of years thinking it was heart problem. I was taken to emergency room by ambulance.

It took about five years before the first MRI revealed what was wrong. Then another 13 years before they would do surgery on me.

I never had the chest pain [B]after[/B] surgery, so I left it out of my post.

One thing you should be aware of is that it takes some time for the nerves to settle down after surgery (they were in there messing around), plus they were pinched for a while too! They will settle down, then you have to see if they will recover totally...I still have a little residual nerve damage (20 months later). My index finger tingles a little when I move into certain positions.

I remember one month out, still being pretty weak and sore...It takes a while for this process. Hang in there.[/QUOTE]

Cool!

Thanks....

This was the EXACT type of outcome I was hoping someone else had!
[QUOTE=acdfouch]in regards to my "new" pain, he believes it may be ulnar nerve but almost for sure, not from the surgery. and to further that thought - hes not even sure its ulnar.. perhaps something got banged around / messed up during PT and i have a "normal persons" injury (my words, not his! :D)[/QUOTE]

One of the biggest problems is wanting to get back to things too fast. I know that you have been pretty careful and are trying to take it slow, but I would caution that your body has been at "rest" for a couple of months, and those bones and muscles haven't been doing much. Then there is the neck...

As our good friend Mike has said..."Take It Slow".

There is no "Too Slow" in this. Make sure you feel alright when doing the excercises. It shouldn't hurt you to do them. If they hurt, don't do them for a while until you feel like you can do them. Don't press your body to do more reps than you can. The "muscle burn" that I talked about should come at the point where your body can take it.

I remember doing the crunches the first few times at PT...I think I did maybe five. That was it. That was all I could do. Too bad. The trainer looked at me like I was some old man...well, I was, and I was an old man that had been through a serious surgery. I just laughed.

Do what you can. Try just a "little" more each time.

Dennis
[QUOTE=dennisgb]One of the biggest problems is wanting to get back to things too fast. I know that you have been pretty careful and are trying to take it slow, but I would caution that your body has been at "rest" for a couple of months, and those bones and muscles haven't been doing much. Then there is the neck...

As our good friend Mike has said..."Take It Slow".

There is no "Too Slow" in this. Make sure you feel alright when doing the excercises. It shouldn't hurt you to do them. If they hurt, don't do them for a while until you feel like you can do them. Don't press your body to do more reps than you can. The "muscle burn" that I talked about should come at the point where your body can take it.

I remember doing the crunches the first few times at PT...I think I did maybe five. That was it. That was all I could do. Too bad. The trainer looked at me like I was some old man...well, I was, and I was an old man that had been through a serious surgery. I just laughed.

Do what you can. Try just a "little" more each time.

Dennis[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a reasonable enough mantra to me.

I explained the possibility of the ulnar thing to my wife and we were both like... Ugh. :)

I'm just going to continue doing my best to keep up my exercise regiment and "take it slow".

I already threw out the up and down look stretches. I think that is out of the question until AT LEAST I know I have fused 100% as per NS.

Other than that, I am doing the :

side to side hold 15 sec
head to shoulder hold 15 sec (of course it doesnt get very far)
same as above but hold wrist and head to shoulder opposite side 15 sec
hand on top / side head - head to shoulder 15 sec

Those are my stretches at the moment....

Thoughts on those specific ones? So far, they seem to be ok and just stretching me....

I poked around the web for ulnar exercises and I'm going to throw those into the mix as well.

Just in case :(
.... And some days you hit a bump in the road.

Been some time that I felt the need to take off from work but today is one of those days.

I had a grrrreat weekend and probably overdid things and I have been paying since.

I took a skelaxin for some extra support today for the first time in weeks.

As I thumb this (on blackberry) I'm waiting to see if it will help.

I actually feel reallllllly guilty I haven't done my walk.

That's a great feeling! Guess I'm really getting into it.

The pain is hovered in the shoulder area and around to my scapuylar area. Anything from a burn to an fuzzy ache.

See what tomorrow and later brings.

I had a great conversation however with my pt yesterday.

Told him I was bummed over feeling this way and asked some questions :

I hurt and I'm bummed. Some people wake up 110 percent. Assuming surgery itself was a success and nothing goes wrong is it safe to say some people have nerve damage while others do not and can this present itself as a longer recovery?

A resounding yes. The sooner you get the surgery, the better chances for getting the initial full relief.

Nerves grow an inch a month - full benefit of two years. Can you equate that to length of referred pain? In other words, the pain in say my shoulder - will that go away in six months.

Great and logical info here. The answer is no. The pain is referred pain from a damaged nerve. In other words, the nerve could be damaged let's say a total of five inches (oversimplifing).... Its the last two (making this up) that is causing all the shoulder reffered pain.... Hence why you should not give up hope all things being equal.

I was having difficulties in the prognosis of 3-6 months recovery until I heard this.

It makes logical sense and gives me something to keep pressing on with.

So - on I go!


I don't know if this info helps anyone else, but its this type of stuff that I personally have a desire to know.

And I'm not out searching for fluff - I need reasoning and I believe I got it yesterday. That in turn makes it easier to press on while things aren't quite 100 percent.





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