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the answer is a most definite YES,you CAN have facial/head related paresthesias from having an issue in your c spine,trust me,i am a walking billboard for that,lol.there are actually a couple of cranials that run down from the head,into the c spine,junction at the c 8 nerve area,then loop back up into the head again.just look up cranial nerves and you will see how some of them run.

i didn't know this was possible til after my spinal cord was severely injured right at the c 7 t 1(alot of c 8 nerve damage) areas,now i have alot of facial tingling and intermittant numbness going on right smack in the middle of my face.this is just MY particular area,there are other areas that are affected as well.i also get migranes,while i have many different triggers,i also have a particular trigger that is somewhere between my upper shoulder/neck area that when i move my arm in a certain way(like lying on my stomach and trying to get something out from underneath the bed?) i will feel this sudden 'pull' in my top shoulder area and into my neck and the very next day or just later in the same day,wham,migrane!

do you actually have a Dxed c spine problem or are you still waiting to actually find that out?just know thatthe answer to your question is a most definite YES.what does your neck problem consist of,or what are your actual symptoms??Marcia
the answer is a most definite YES,you CAN have facial/head related paresthesias from having an issue in your c spine,trust me,i am a walking billboard for that,lol.there are actually a couple of cranials that run down from the head,into the c spine,junction at the c 8 nerve area,then loop back up into the head again.just look up cranial nerves and you will see how some of them run.

i didn't know this was possible til after my spinal cord was severely injured right at the c 7 t 1(alot of c 8 nerve damage) areas,now i have alot of facial tingling and intermittant numbness going on right smack in the middle of my face.this is just MY particular area,there are other areas that are affected as well.i also get migranes,while i have many different triggers,i also have a particular trigger that is somewhere between my upper shoulder/neck area that when i move my arm in a certain way(like lying on my stomach and trying to get something out from underneath the bed?) i will feel this sudden 'pull' in my top shoulder area and into my neck and the very next day or just later in the same day,wham,migrane!

do you actually have a Dxed c spine problem or are you still waiting to actually find that out?just know thatthe answer to your question is a most definite YES.what does your neck problem consist of,or what are your actual symptoms??i would highly suggest getting an MRI done on your c spine,as this is probably the problem area, somewhere within it.Marcia
good morning all------my spine specialist tells me the numbness and tingling in the face is from the brain though the last time i saw him he wasnted to see the MRI of my brain. hospital that did it messed me up since it was ordered with/without gadolinium and they only did without. now i have to go back and have it done with. i wake most mornings with the right side of my face and lips feeling as if i was in the dentists chair all night. numbness that turns to pins and needles. no PT no injections have been done on my neck so far since i also have an impinged shoulder, tarsal tunnel and tendonitis in my ankle, buckling rt knee and 4 bluges in my lumbar. all the same injury.

MRI cervical spine:
3 bulged disks
pinched nerve at the C7
large bone spurs between the C5-6 and C6-7 indenting the spinal cord
possible early myelopathy
stenosis at different levels

EMG done 3 weeks post injury. neuro states it was done too soon. shows nothing but the pinched nerve at C7.

i am starting to think i am crazy but know sincce this is all a WC case they will put me through hell before they fix anything. i have cervial headaches almost everyday. right up the back of my skull. pains in my ear on the side of the shoulder impingement. i am seeing a shoulder surgeon in a couple of weeks and since i just got my first injection in my ankle will see the specialist within a month for that also. in the menatime i am starting aquatic therapy since the ortho's don't believe i can do anything else. hopefully we can fix my ankle and hsoulder and then concentrate on my neck. the bulges in my lumbar have been there since 1999, flare up once in awhile but i have learned to live with htem. best to all.:wave:
ICC - They don't think that the shoulder pain is coming from the Cspine? This seems to me like almost a no-brainer... Unless you know for sure that the shoulder joint is messed up, your pain is likely nerve pain from the Cspine. I'm no doctor, I'll say that upfront, but do a search on these boards for shoulder and you'll see lots of folks who have severe shoulder pain. Especailly with myelopathy -- this might be radicular pain..

How annoying for you. I'm so sorry... Your facial pain/numbness is likely due to the Cspine issues too... I get numb tingling lips all of the time. I"m sorry you are WC - I know that is awful. Years and years ago, I used to work as a paralegal for WC patients - I know how hard it is for you to get the treatment you need.

Are you seeing a neurologist? A neurologist might not want the WC to spend the money on a shoulder doc when the pain is radicular in nature. Not to scare you or confuse you any further, but just a thought. I hope it works out and you get the tratement you need. Have you tried Lyrica, Neurontin, Topamax, etc yet? Sometimes those help quite a bit with the nerve pain and if it is not the shoulder joint, it might help with that pain too.
Hey ICC, i DO feel for ya.geez c spine/shoulder pain,ya think MAYBE there IS a connection??duh.some docs just kill me with there unbelievable level of total ignorance.for YEARS i was told that my under the shoulder blade pain was in NO WAY comming from the wonderful little cavernoma inside of my spinal cord.two neurosurgeons told me,no way,it was not possible.my cav is/was at the c 8 nerve level.by the time i finally got to the office of the head of neurosurgery at the university of MN,i was like ready to make that final leap over the freeway overpass down the street.honestly,if not that,what the hell was it?this NS was my true savior.honestly,one of the first things that came out of his mouth was YES,my cav was probably the key trigger for this hidious prying/pressure type of pain i was having,and he not only told me,he showed me how this was possible with a little drawing he made for me showing me just how the nerves actually run below the vertebrae.honestly,i was never so happy to hear 'bad' news.

finding a very knowledgable and experienced NS is really the biggest thing.the ironic thing was one of my NSs that i had seen before,and who did my c spine surgeries,was actually taught by this NS,he had gone to the U of M for med school.i think he must have either missed that particular lecture on how the nerves run or partied too much the night before and slept thru it.

if anyone takes the time to actually see how the nerves actually run thru the c spine,they pretty much totally innervate the entire shoulder area and the entire upper back,not to mention the ones that run down from the head and loop back up into it at the c 8 junction.HELLOOOO??

because of the mess i now have at my c 8 from the cavernoma resection surgery,my head/face,legs feet c spine and a huge area where the tracts and other nerves that were damaged run,i literally have some level affectation from head to foot.kind of that domino effect?

my facial stuff,the tingling and the off and on numbness will just come and go when it wants to,like right now,the tip of my nose is tingling,wasn't there like ten minutes ago.i do have some sort of loss of a level of sensory at my upper lip area as well and really am not sure if this is loss of prioperception(which i have in certain areas,mostly my legs)but i cannot tell whether my mouth is open or closed when i am not actually looking at it or touch it with my tongue.wierd,really.just one of my many 'gifts" from the nerve and tract damage that is all stemming from my c spine and not my aneurysm in my brain.yes,we have had fun lately.god i hate docs,really.espescially the ones that are just never ever wrong in their Dx and are not willing to own up to mistakes of any kind.yea,you ARE human just like the rest of us.

i am off my box now,sorry to ramble.just slap me please.marcia





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