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Hi everyone,

I recently had c5/6 facet blocks for the third time, and due to right arm pain I also had a nerve block at c6. The arm pain went and my headaches which were shocking have gone on the right which seems odd?
I now have them on the left and upper left neck sharp jabs that lead to headache that spreads across both eyes.
I am wondering whether this c6 nerve could have blocked the head pain on the right side? The side with this nerve block has been virtually pain free!
I am very confused and was thinking about a c2 block but I am not sure which side to go for and niether do my dr's. Has anyone had a 5/6 disc that was the source of all their head/neck pain?
I am having another MRI as I have had 3 blocks this year and want to see if it picks up whats happening.
My last MRI (2 years ago) showed a reasonable bulge c5/6,small bulge at 3/4. Yet, since then the headaches have beem worse and arm pain started recently. Thankyou for any thoughts,
Mel
Mel, I am new to all of this, and can offer no precise info, but all I know is that my NS doesn't think my headaches have been directly related to my C5-6 disc hern which presses cord, or C6-7 which is buldging with spurs. I have had major headaches since Jan, with all the other symptoms too, but not sure whats actally causing the head pain. They did find a cyst and spot on my brain which NS is investigating further, but deep down I really think its from my neck some how. My Neck MRI showed C5-7 clearly, but the higher levels disc images were terrible,I think because I swallowed which caused movement. The myelogram is inevitable for me because of bad MRI. Glad to hear you will get another MRI, hopefully that will clear up exactly whats going on with your head. PS dont swallow!! Babs

[This message has been edited by BABS42 (edited 06-20-2003).]
I also have had headaches from my c 5/6 herniation. I always thought it was caused by the accompanying muscle spasms from my neck and upper back area. I usually have it on the right side and thats where the herniation was. The pain would start along my right shoulder and eventually end up right behind my ear. I figured it was just the tension from my back and neck causing it. The phs therapists could do wonders getting rid of the headache... Although it would last only a little time .. But sometimes you just need relief for a few minutes and it gives you the fortitude to be able to deal with it.
Hope this helps
John

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ACDF WITH PLATING C5/6
2/25/03
HI Mel,
All of the research i have done clearly points to headaches from C5-6 and c6-7 as being entirely possible and often probable. There are many factors involved in the anatomy of a headache. Did you lood at the sites I gave you before?
The spasms alone can produce headache.Once again look up occipital neuralgia, there are so many nerves and blood vessels that exit through the cervical spine. Spasms in that area can certainly elicit pressure on these structures.
The new MRI is a really good idea. I hope you find the answers to your headaches, and are soon feeling better. How goes the studies? It must be so hard to concentrate with these headaches. Oh yeah!and tension and stress cause tightening and spasm in the neck. Can all be a bit of a snowball effect, cant it?
Take care of yourself, Mel
Just before my ACDF last June I began to have some headaches, not constant, but there. Following surgery I was okay for a few months, but by the end of October had severe pressure in the back of head and tingling up toward the top of the head.

My MRI now shows narrowed foramina at C5-6 and C6-7, some osteophytes. So even without herniations you can get headaches from the nerves being impinged. The surgeons both say C2 looks normal, so I am a firm believer that all those nerves back there can cause head pain.

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Nancy D-ACDF C6-7 on 6/7/02. Donor bone with no hardware
Add me to the list of those with C5-6 and C6-7 problems who experienced severe headaches. I used to have them 3 or more times per week, so bad I had to leave work often and go home and curl up in bed. Sometimes they were so bad I would start to panic because I couldn't get relief. They felt like my head was going to literally explode. They would start with a stiff and hot feeling in my neck, then after a few hours I'd start getting a headache right at the base of my skull, which would expand up the back of my head and at my temples. I'd stand under a hot shower and it would help a lot, but as soon as I'd get out of the shower, within a minute or two I'd be right back into the headache with the accompanying nausea. Sometimes I'd be in and out of the shower 8 or 10 times in a couple of hours I was so desperate for relief. Only time (4-8 hours) would seem to help. Since being put on neurontin in mid December, I have had only 2 of them, and they were not as bad as the earlier ones. Both came in the last 2 weeks, accompanying a noticeable lessening of the pain killing effect of the neurontin. I think my body must be getting used the stuff and overriding it. I have to conclude that those headaches are directly related to my neck problems at those 2 levels. The doc wants to up the neurontin to 500 or 600mg 3 times daily, but I am really reluctant, they fog me up pretty good as it is. I'm hoping to stop treating the symptoms of the problem here soon, and have the surgery to eliminate the problem itself. I can really relate to all the frustration felt by many of you on this seemingly never ending road to permanent (hopefully) relief.
Hi mel333

Add me to the list, as well, of those with C4-5 C5-6 and C6-7 problems (as seen in my signature) who experiences severe headaches. Mine usually come when I'm in a bad flare and my whole back and neck are hurting. They would start(as Keith said) with a stiff and hot feeling in my neck, then after a few hours I'd start getting a headache right at the base of my skull, which would expand up the back of my head and at my temples. I sometimes also get the accompanying nausea. It usually last anywhere from 2-4 days depending on how bad the flare is. I don't get ear pain but my ears do feel like their clogged sorta and sometimes a ringing in my ears (don't know if it's connected).

Well not that I've been any help but I just thought I'd jump in with my two cents.

Hope you find an answer to your suffering!

Take Care, :wave:
Joanne

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[list]
[*]At the age of 8, Sept 63, bad fall on back on stairs compression fractures of D6 and D8
[*]Diagnosed DDD 1993
[*]C4-C5 posterior osteophytic bar effacing ventral thecal sac Mild stenosis of neural foramina
[*]C5-C6 posterior disc protrusion effacing v t s .Mild stenosis of neural foramina
[*]C6-C7 posterior disc herniation effacing v t s . Mild stenosis of neural foramina
[*]C7-T1 Small perineural cysts present in both neural foramina.
[*]left convex scoliosis of mid thoracic spine. wedging of T7. wedging of T5 .degenerative end plate changes at T8-T9
[*]L4-L5 diffuse disc bulge effacing v t s. hypertrophy of facet joints, minimal central spinal stenosis.
[*]L5-S1 posterior disc protrusion with associated tear of annulus fibrosis. hypertrophy of facet joints.
[*]S1-S2 Perineural cysts involving S1-S2 nerve roots.
[/list]
I was surfing the net last night about occipital neuralgia and they keep pointing to C2, but I've had three different docs say I am classic ON, but all the tests don't show an upper cervical problem.

Maybe they need to redefine the causes on all those pages. We're living proof that C5-7 problems can give you classic ON.

Oh goody, another acronym to add to our board :) Maybe we should start a list for the newbies to access, or has that been done before?

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Nancy D-ACDF C6-7 on 6/7/02. Donor bone with no hardware
Hi mel333,

The doc gave me Tylenol2 for pain. It seems to lessen the pain from the headache after awhile but it always comes right back,until I get the pain in my back and neck under control. The Tylenol2 dosen't touch the back and neck pain, the only thing that controls that is rest and/or keeping my activity level LOW.

Take Care, :wave:
Joanne

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[list]
[*]At the age of 8, Sept 63, bad fall on back on stairs compression fractures of D6 and D8
[*]Diagnosed DDD 1993
[*]C4-C5 posterior osteophytic bar effacing ventral thecal sac Mild stenosis of neural foramina
[*]C5-C6 posterior disc protrusion effacing v t s .Mild stenosis of neural foramina
[*]C6-C7 posterior disc herniation effacing v t s . Mild stenosis of neural foramina
[*]C7-T1 Small perineural cysts present in both neural foramina.
[*]left convex scoliosis of mid thoracic spine. wedging of T7. wedging of T5 .degenerative end plate changes at T8-T9
[*]L4-L5 diffuse disc bulge effacing v t s. hypertrophy of facet joints, minimal central spinal stenosis.
[*]L5-S1 posterior disc protrusion with associated tear of annulus fibrosis. hypertrophy of facet joints.
[*]S1-S2 Perineural cysts involving S1-S2 nerve roots.
[/list]





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