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im female and a teenager and id have to agree with lilihob. You sound like one of those guys I go to talk to about my guy problems because you will always say the sweetest nicest reassuring things. You say everything our female friends say, except it makes you feel good when guys say those things. It wouldn't matter if ur the sweetest cutest person alive, most girls want a guy who (i cant believe im saying this) is a bit of a jerk. I guess alot of girls arent in to all the sweet romantic stuff as much as you may think
hey guy! i know i would be stupid if i said wait and something will happen. Your probably a lot like me. Your sick of waiting and you want things to happen and when they dont you think very low of yourself.So to not disappoint you, i will give you two answers. One you wont want to hear, and they other...take it as you want to. First off. The bad part. You should just wait. I am a strong believer in everything happens for a reason. Maybe someone is up there lookin out for you and has this perfect girl that is waiting for you.Also dont you think when you do find someone you will have a better appreciation for her? They say love comes when you least expect it. Another thing is, you go visit those girls that turned you down in a couple months or so. Do you honestly think they will be with the same person? The other thing i wanted to say was,if you get really desperate like me lol and want someone,go and do more things. Go places you would never think to go. I sit home most of the time and dont have anyone. You never know who you will find. I wouldnt change my personallity though. Someone mentioned that girls like bad guys. I think they are wrong. A lot of girls want a caring man. Guys who are "bad" are usually just that.I hope you got something out of what i just said. You sound like a genuine guy with a big heart, im sure that any girl that turns you down will regret it in the future. I wish you a lot of luck!!
Theodicy,

Man, I have the same problem. I'm a really nice guy by what my friends, both male and female, tell me. I'm not ugly by any means, Iím not fat, I have very minimal acne, and I make the ladies laugh. My female friends always tell me "Youíre such a great guy youíll find someone, you just need patience." Personally I think thatís BS. In order to get anywhere in this world you have to do it yourself, and sitting on your bum all day will not get you any closer to what you want.

I think there are a lot more guys like us than you would think. The guys that, no matter how hard we try, will never be anything more than "friends" to the women we want. Reading this thread has actually given me confidence that I'm not the only one out there who has been screwed over by fate. Maybe those of us that are in this kind of situation are set apart from the rest of the guys our age. Perhaps by maturity, immaturity, intelligence, or just being very shy. Personally I think most of the stuff people my age do is really immature, even though Iím 17 and supposed to be immature and rowdy. I just happen to be quiet, and shy. I generally look for girls with the same, or a similar maturity level to myself, which always screws me over because I end up being more of a friend to them.

I donít know. I donít have any real advice or wisdom to share with you other than keep your head up. Try doing different things, going to places you might not go otherwise, just be spontaneous and when you meet a girl let her know what you want. Donít go saying ďBaby I want in your pantsĒ but just be smooth and just make it obvious you like her without actually saying it. The one other thing I could say that would be any good is, try going somewhere with your friends or whatever, and just approach random women and try doing different things. Experiment with the way you approach a woman, the way you talk to her in the first 5 minutes of talking to her, your body language, and how to read her body language. Iíve done this with a few girls, just using them as guinea pigs for my flirting habits, and have found that I actually am more confident with approaching women and talking to them.

Good luck man!
I have had 4 girl friends and 1 friends with benefits since the time I wrote the first message. It's been tough, every one I've rushed into and it hasn't been good. In one I was accused with being insecure though she laid on a bed with a guy (she had friends with benefits with the summer previous) he had his arm out and her head was on his arm and he told her not to tell me he was over. I told her I didn't like that. And the last 2 were 2 years and 1 year. With the 2 year one she was diagnosed with depression and before then didn't like doing anything but sleep. I am an active person so that drove me crazy among other things, plus whatever I did for her wasn't enough. And in the last one she seemed to be a nice person to talk with and we got along great, but she when we first started dating was a chatter, but half way, she stopped talking. And I'm saying about everything.

Anyways, I'm single again, and I'm perfectly fine with that. Rushing hasn't been good for me, in everyone one of these girls I had relations with I had known them for 3 weeks or less before starting to date them. It's my own fault I guess you could say, but I've learned a multitude of things. At least I need to be more picky and take my time.





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