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Tmj and ear pain
May 12, 2005
hi im from newcastle england
I recently had a bad ear infection which lasted 7 weeks 3 antibioctics
was then referred to ent who said ear was fine no ear fluid
still having this full and clicking popping ear
i used to suffer from tmj a few years ago attend dental hospital in newcastle
who made me a splint soory to go on to cut along story short
COULD ANYONE TELL ME IF THIS COULD BE TMJ as the symptoms r different
and i get pain in the temple around the ear and skull
i would be grateful if anyone could reply.
Hi

Yes, these are all symptoms of TMJ but it could also be completely seperate. I have had 4 years of TMJ treatment (operation, splint etc) and although that was succesful, my popping/full ears have remained the same. I too had all the superficial ear tests for wax etc and it was completely clear! It is one of the most infuriating things so I understand how people are driven crazy by it. I would say get referred to an ENT specialist and keep hassling them - you could have an infection/trapped fluid in your inner/middle ear. It's what I am going to do.

Good Luck.
Hi

I have similar symptoms and a semi long history of them. First my tMj joints got displaced, then after about 9 monhts of jaw popping, clicking, pain my ears began to go. basically on my face, the left joint does most of the work opening, so my left face has a big muscle mass from carrying all the work and the left ear got so bad I was dizzy all the time, the ear was full of pressure and pain and doing this weird pulse ringing all the time, especally when I moved up and down ( sit to stand etc. )

I got an MRI, showed I had developed inner ear disease, which is fluid in the inner ear. Very hard to treat.

the theory is that when the jaw goies berserk, because of its closeness to the ears, the eustatian tubes in the ears start to not work properly. Your muscles get all wound up or something that prevent them from draining properly and you get build up of fluid.

Theory # two is the brain gets confused about the pain and since the jaw joints are close to the ears, sometimes it thinks the ears hurt and they ring.
HELLO :wave:

I have been to ent second time only to be told that my ear has no fluid and its fine, i had the 2 different ear tests for hearing and pressure apparently this tells you if there is fluid, i said about the popping and clicking and he said that the eustchian tube would probably getting back to normal after ear infections , and a heavy cold i did mention about my jaw problem but he didnt seem convinced that it was TMJ. :confused:
other sufferers r your symptoms clogged feeling in ear pain in around the skull area above the ear, and symptoms as though your head is swimming in fluid sometimes my nostril and ear r blocked is this a symptom of tmj as my husband says if ent told you your ear is fine. But its not
Maughan,

Your problem could very well be something separate from TMJ. Have you looked into stapedial myoclonus or tensor tympani syndrome? What about superior semicicular canal dishonence syndrome? It sounds like you have more of an inner problem than a TMJ problem that is causing your symptoms. The popping and clicking may also be palatal eustachion tube or palatal myoclonus.

Although I believe TMJ can definitely play a part in ear disorders, the ear problems you experience may be separate.

If you want to know more, I can elaborate. It would help too if you expand on your symptoms; like what brings on the popping, clicking? Noise, random? Do you ever get vertigo?

Joe

[QUOTE=maughan]HELLO :wave:

I have been to ent second time only to be told that my ear has no fluid and its fine, i had the 2 different ear tests for hearing and pressure apparently this tells you if there is fluid, i said about the popping and clicking and he said that the eustchian tube would probably getting back to normal after ear infections , and a heavy cold i did mention about my jaw problem but he didnt seem convinced that it was TMJ. :confused:
other sufferers r your symptoms clogged feeling in ear pain in around the skull area above the ear, and symptoms as though your head is swimming in fluid sometimes my nostril and ear r blocked is this a symptom of tmj as my husband says if ent told you your ear is fine. But its not[/QUOTE]
Miss L,

I asked my daughter the question you asked me. She said that she mainly feels pressure in the ear, has popping sounds and itching. She continues to have ringing in the ears and some earaches. The splints that were put in the upper and lower mouth seem to be helping with her other symptoms, especially with the headaches. We are hoping the ear problems get better in time. TMD is such a complex medical problem and there are few answers when it comes to finding out exactly why the ears are involved and what can be done to help the symptoms involved. :confused:
[QUOTE=joeteche]Maughan,

Your problem could very well be something separate from TMJ. Have you looked into stapedial myoclonus or tensor tympani syndrome? What about superior semicicular canal dishonence syndrome? It sounds like you have more of an inner problem than a TMJ problem that is causing your symptoms. The popping and clicking may also be palatal eustachion tube or palatal myoclonus.

Although I believe TMJ can definitely play a part in ear disorders, the ear problems you experience may be separate.

If you want to know more, I can elaborate. It would help too if you expand on your symptoms; like what brings on the popping, clicking? Noise, random? Do you ever get vertigo?



reply to joeteche
hi Thanks for your message i have seen 2 different ent specialists both said that my ears were alright and explanation for the clicking was after an ear infection the the eustchian tube was returning back to normal and there was no fluid in ear, i did have a bad ear infection before all this started it took 3 different antibioctics to rid it,my gp said how many doctors do you want to see after being told your ear has no fluid, however i do have a problem with my right jaw it clicks so im going down another path to see tmj as it could be affecting my ear, have u ear or tmj and ear problems.

Joe[/QUOTE]
I think a lot has to do with personal experience of the doctors, some may have TMJ or know someone that does, which makes then suspect TMJ. I have never had clicking or popping and I have continous humming in my ears. It from inflammation and muscle spasms I would think. I am going to ask my TMJ dentist today about that. It could be my ears as I've had ear problems a long time and never had a TMJ symptoms till 3 months ago. :)





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