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Just wanted to add that in some instances these days the "chicken pox" isn't just breaking out in spots anymore. According to my son's ped. it was noted that in some cases the chicken pox virus also had a FLESH EATING virus attached to it that was difficult to get rid of. THIS is the reason they developed the vaccine, because some instances of the illness had been more life threatening. Then on the other hand, we don't have data regarding what happens after 20 years with this vaccine..do they need boosters...can they catch the virus then when it can be more evasive as an adult...can other side effects occur? Everyone needs to know the pro's and con's of certain vaccinations in order to realize what risks are there - then you can make an educated decision for YOUR personal choice and situation.

I never got my son the vaccination and for other reasons he's not gotten any of his booster shots either, but yes I do fear the possibility of him catching the more damaging form of this virus. Still, I'd rather have him progress in life than risk the possibility of digressing and losing all progress made in his autism therapy just because we were afraid of him catching a disease that most other children at his school would probably never aquire due to them having been vaccinated. If he hadn't had this disability, I can say with certainty that I probably would've gotten him vaccinated for chicken pox as well as the other boosters.

[QUOTE=Pandabaire3]Just wanted to add that in some instances these days the "chicken pox" isn't just breaking out in spots anymore. According to my son's ped. it was noted that in some cases the chicken pox virus also had a FLESH EATING virus attached to it that was difficult to get rid of. THIS is the reason they developed the vaccine, because some instances of the illness had been more life threatening. Then on the other hand, we don't have data regarding what happens after 20 years with this vaccine..do they need boosters...can they catch the virus then when it can be more evasive as an adult...can other side effects occur? Everyone needs to know the pro's and con's of certain vaccinations in order to realize what risks are there - then you can make an educated decision for YOUR personal choice and situation.
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Necrotizing fasciitis is caused by a bacteria, not virus. It's a variation of Staph Aureus bacteria (which, btw, is ubiquitous). It is extremely rare but it is also difficult to distinguish between necrotizing fasciitis and the common cellulitis (soft tissue infection).

The reason you might see necrotizing fasciitis resulting from chicken pox is due to the open sores from the chicken pox. The skin is the first line of defense against germs, acting as an effective barrier. When the skin is broken, it provides an open passage for bacteria to enter.

As to the charge that vaccination leads to increase autism - I have yet to see any scientific evidence to support the charges. The report by Wakefield et al. in 1998 was a survey on 12 patients, and asking parents (recall) if they remember when autism was diagnosed (along w/ bowel disease) and comparing it to the date of the MMR injection. The study does not show causation. Second, 12 patients is an extremely small sample. Followups by the British and American authorities on larger samples have found no causation. In fact, Wakefield (the original author) issued a statement this year in the journal Lancet saying that there was no evidence establishing the causal effect of vaccination and autism.

To date, I have yet to see clinical evidence to support the statement that vaccination causes Autism or that vaccination weakens the immune statement. However, I am more than happy to review any research that supports those claims IF they appear in reputable peer-review journals.
I'm just relaying what was told to me buy our ped - that the vaccination was created to prevent children from getting chicken pox that could possibly lead to contraction of the flesh eating bacteria...just offering a why to people who have been asking why such a vaccination was even introduced.

Secondly, I never said that vaccinations lead to increased autism. What I said was that we (as parents of our son) don't know whether the vaccinations accounted for the autism or not and we didn't want to take chances by further damage IF they did. To date I have yet to see that autism ISN'T caused by vaccination so my argument is just as valid as yours. Until you have a child in this predicament, don't dismiss others for their decisions on what they feel is best for their child. I happen to believe it's a combination of factors that probably include an individuals genetics (dealing with previously diagnosed learning disorders in family members and depression components), immune systems of each individual, and the administration of the vaccines to those who's bodies cannot tolerate them.

By the way, thermerisol is STILL in use in vaccines no matter what the CDC has told the public...you can go to the vaccine manufacturers directly and find that out for yourself. And it sure is a "coincidence" that autism has been on the rise since the introduction of vaccinations in the 1940's. And even more so a higher coincidence since the increase in use of the multiple vaccines and their thermerisol preservative. I'm sorry to tell you, but the well educated medical professional sometimes doesn't know EVERYTHING. Smoking isn't good for you...we know that now, yet for decades even doctors (who should know better) smoked. I believe in time we will find out that vaccinations accounted for some of the autism increase, but until there is definitive proof either way, it should be a parents choice as to what goes into their babies bodies.




[QUOTE=group_theory]Necrotizing fasciitis is caused by a bacteria, not virus. It's a variation of Staph Aureus bacteria (which, btw, is ubiquitous). It is extremely rare but it is also difficult to distinguish between necrotizing fasciitis and the common cellulitis (soft tissue infection).

The reason you might see necrotizing fasciitis resulting from chicken pox is due to the open sores from the chicken pox. The skin is the first line of defense against germs, acting as an effective barrier. When the skin is broken, it provides an open passage for bacteria to enter.

As to the charge that vaccination leads to increase autism - I have yet to see any scientific evidence to support the charges. The report by Wakefield et al. in 1998 was a survey on 12 patients, and asking parents (recall) if they remember when autism was diagnosed (along w/ bowel disease) and comparing it to the date of the MMR injection. The study does not show causation. Second, 12 patients is an extremely small sample. Followups by the British and American authorities on larger samples have found no causation. In fact, Wakefield (the original author) issued a statement this year in the journal Lancet saying that there was no evidence establishing the causal effect of vaccination and autism.

To date, I have yet to see clinical evidence to support the statement that vaccination causes Autism or that vaccination weakens the immune statement. However, I am more than happy to review any research that supports those claims IF they appear in reputable peer-review journals.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]To date I have yet to see that autism ISN'T caused by vaccination so my argument is just as valid as yours.[/QUOTE]

Did you try looking anything up?

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