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I was in the same boat. I had vaccinated my son for the first go round, then around four months, I had this ovewhelming fear of something going wrong and couldn't pin it down. I did some serious soul searching and chose not to vaccinate him. I did so much research that it wasn't even funny....two weeks straight, glued to the internet, trying to decide. I didn't have this problem with my first, I was ignorrant to the problem, some days I almost wish that was still true, because the choice is hard, almost impossible at times.
You need to do what you feel is right, but either choice is scary. I have fears all the time that I didn't do what was right, yet have this gut feeling, the other option would have proved deadly for my son. I plan on doing his vaccinations when he turns two and the brain is more protected from the vaccination. You can also track the batch number that the vaccine comes out of, not sure of the place that does it, but you can get the batch number from your pediatrician and have it checked. It will tell you if that batch had more than average problems....some comfort, but not much.
From what I understand about thimerosol, it's dangerous because it's got a cumulative effect, and also has a range of (this is just an idea, not an actual figure, as I don't remember it) 1 to 10 parts per million, lets say your baby gets all the shots from a batch on the high end, the body stores it and hasn't had a chance to brake any of it down, and your child has a tendancy toward a certain illness or has an allergic type reaction....viola, vaccine reaction.
I do believe you should speak to your pediatrician as long as they are open minded. Mine was awesome. She is pro-vaccine, but is pro-mom as well. She helped me do much of my research, never pushed, gave me all the facts that she knew on her end, which did include death, autism, seizure, etc....but also told me what the opposite could be. They both have their risks, but need to be weighed carefully. You'll also carry the extra burden of having to make sure your child has a great, strong, immune system and keep them out of places that are high risk for these types of diseases. Most will make it out just fine, either way you choose, but it's in your child's best interest to keep the immune system strong.
There are very few herbs I advocate using for children because of proven safety... it doesn't mean they're not safe, but no one dares test them and those that have used them don't speak out because of fear of ridicule. It makes it tough. You should get a pediatric herb book, research it and if you have any doubts and don't find the answer you're looking for, bypass it...better safe than sorry. I use acidophylus (sp?) and beta-glucan for my baby, occasionally echinacea...but skip the golden seal because of possible safety issues. With my 9 yr old I use olive leaf and oil of oregano in a gel cap when he's getting sick. But you need to research proper doses and be dilligent in where you get your herbs, brand name, etc. to make sure they are at a standardized dose, meaning, a certain level is maintained and doesn't fluctuate much, some flucuate terribly.
You'll find your answer, just keep looking, talk to his doc, if they're no help, find one who is at least open to speaking to you about it, without putting you down and go from there. Just as a precaution, I try to keep my son out of high traffic areas during busy times and take anti-bacterial wipes with me everywhere......especially the grocery cart....chicken pox, cold, flu, rota-virus, fifths disease, etc....some sound scary, they aren't that bad, just miserable. Good luck to you, you are not a bad mom, you're a typical mom.
You never know true fear until you have children!!! Welcome to motherhood.
Hi Sailmaven, yup, you're right. Thought it was you. I do understand your concerns completely. Where I was being rubbed the wrong way was the fact that I don't feel we are told enough to make educated decisions. I do realize that doctors go to school for this, but I feel that some assume that the lay people can't grasp the concepts, nor make educated decisions. I do still think that vaccinations are important, I just feel that the drug companies are saccrificing the well-being of our children, to keep costs down and profits up. It just doesn't seem right.

They have learned so much in the last century and to think that stuff previously "known" to be safe, only to find out it wasn't, is bad enough. But IMO, when they know that something could be and is, toxic, to keep using it because it's the cheapest way to produce it, is wrong. There is so much in life, not just medicine, that could be done for the greater good and is done in such a way that it causes many pain. I've seen many instances of this and that's where I start to show fangs.

I know you only mean to show the importance of this issue, but I also strongly think that at some point, the medical community is going to have to give all sides and trust that we'll make the right decision. Most of the people who posted here are just trying to sort things out, think out loud and hear from others. It's awful to be a parent and know that you are solely responsible for that little person and what you decide may adversely affect their lives or worse. That's why so many of us are so passionate about things. Like I said, I believe that there should be a dual approach to treating peoples health. I believe herbs are a great alternative for keeping healthy, but also feel that there's no fool proof answer to anything in life.

I do understand the reservations of disclosing all the ins and outs, because humans can be odd creatures, but at some time we have to be responsible for our well-being and our children's. Most parents would never deliberately endanger their children, but when you do look at this type of issue, you are scared, and with knowledge...comes more fear!! LOL We just don't like feeling like something is being hidden from us... afterall, why hide it, if it's totally safe??? In terms of safety, it may be very safe, but when facts are hidden, we start to wonder the why of it all. That's what most people are probably upset about. All these years, not only are we lead to believe that it is absolute law, but we're told there is no risk involved with getting them, only to find out's just a tough choice.

I am, however, thrilled to have both of you here. I hope I didn't offend you Sailmaven, I just get growly when I feel like I have to prove myself, just to have an opinion... deep rooted childhood stuff!! LOL That's all on the depression board!! LOL I do appreciate all the views here and think that if we can keep the conversations more along this type of communication we could accomplish sooo many things. This type of feel it's got now is what is truly conducive to learning. When people feel like they are being forced to a certain decision, they turn their backs, quit listening and refuse to listen, no matter how good the info or how smart the person is that's sharing it. The best way to educate people and share your belief is by just what's been done on this thread. It makes people open to all the advice/info/opinions and then they can process it and absorb it over time. Then is when they will make the decision that they feel is best. As I said before, people are stupid creatures at times and will run a hundred miles in another direction, just becuase someone told us it wasn't a good idea.

Any how, turning into a run-on sentence. Glad to see you back. If you're ever up for a spin in the rubber room, hop on the depression board!! LOL Have a good night children................Angel

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