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I would be very careful about immunizing yourself as an adult if you are 1.) Female 2.) Plan to be pregnant any time soon. The MMR (measles mumps rubella) viruses introduced by the MMR vaccine can be active in your system for up to 18 years. So if you are entering college, you may be 17...but ask you want to become pregnant before the age of 35? Most likely the answer is yes. Bear with me....

Many caucasians carry a gene for Type 1 diabetes that is naturally passed on to their children. [I]But it [/I] [I]takes an enviromental trigger to set the Type 1 diabetes genes into motion.[/I]. An environmental trigger may be a virus, a food additive, (or a vaccine, which is in effect, a modified form of a virus). And don't let anyone tell you that viruses in vaccines are not "live". If they were not, they would not be able to invoke a response from the immune system and they do. (See December 2005 issue of Scientific American, Are Viruses Alive.)

My mother CAUGHT the german measles (otherwise known as rubella--the R part of the MMR vaccine) while pregnant with my sister in the 70's. While in utero, of course my sister shared mom's blood supply. In response to my mother's case of german measles----my sister's immune system did it's job correctly (making her OWN antibodies to the german measles). She was then born! :wave:

BUT then my sister was vaccinated with still MORE of the german measles/rubella virus through the MMR vaccine [B]after birth and throughout her toddler years[/B]---and became a Type 1 diabetic at the age of 5.

There is no one on either side of our family, for as far back as we can trace, that ever had childhood Type 1. Do not confuse this with childhood Type 2 caused by obesity. Type 1 is an autoimmune disease.

There are studies that date back to the 1970's that show babies born to mothers who had german measles/rubella during pregnancy, then had their immune systems saturated with the rubella/german measles virus via additional MMR vaccines after birth---had a much higher risk of developing Type 1 before the age of 6.

Why again? Remember, the babies had already made their OWN antibodies to the virus in utero. There was no need to then vaccinate them with MORE of the same virus. This only forced their immune systems to make MORE antibodies where antibodies had already been made.

The connection here is--[B]Each time a virus is introduced to any of us, it evokes a repsonse from our immune systems--and Type 1 is an AUTOIMMUNE disease. [/B] There are also astronomical cases of Type 1 now, compared to the 70's---and the only thing that has changed since then--was the implementation of a nationwide vaccination program in the late 60's.

Some may argue that whether it's the actual german measles that a woman catches on her own--or the virus being delivered in the form of the vaccination...these babies are in the same boat. But that's not so. Babies' whose mothers receive the MMR virus, then go on to have their own MMR vaccine schedule are double-whammied. The double whammy can be avoided. [B]And unfortunetly at this present time, we do not know which babies are genetically vulnerable to an overexposure to this virus. Yet all newborns are being treated in a one size fits all mannner. [/B]

[B]If a doctor pushes [/B] a pregnant mother to have an MMR vaccine, she should insist that HER antibody levels first be checked for this virus via a simple blood test. If adequate amounts of antibodies to rubella, measles, or mumps ARE already found present in the mother, there is absolutely NO reason to subject herself or her baby in utero to a MMR vaccination---which would in effect, be the same mode of transmission as my mother catching rubella on her own, and my sister sharing it. [B]In this case, both mother and baby will have to make antibodies in response to this vaccination. [/B]

Why refuse it again? Because they will want to shoot the baby up with even more MMR after birth, and we still do not know which babies carry the Type 1 genes.

I am not saying don't let your baby have the MMR vaccine at all--just don't introduce it to them TWICE by getting this vaccine while you are pregnant. It needs to be one or the other....during pregnancy or after...not both....I'm sorry if I sound so passionate on this, but I have seen what my sister has gone through the last 30 years, and even JDRF concedes that MMR vaccinations are highly suspicious.

[B]If you are a pregnant woman who has already had a MMR vaccine...DO have your newborn's antibody levels checked before you allow them to be vaccinated with MMR after birth. [/B] Most likely, they will have enough antibody level left over from your vaccination and will not require more. People are just not aware of their options.

I am all for vaccinations such as polio...however, I would stay away from any vaccination for diseases such as mumps or chicken pox. These are short-term, survivable ailments that our grandparents are still here telling us stories about with smiles on their faces.

Yes, they are a public nuisance, but a chronic, lifelong disease such as childhood diabetes is not an even trade for an ailment that you either may or may not get---and will be rid of in 2 weeks.

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