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Re: Scared
Nov 23, 2005
It is interesting how we mothers have 'gut feelings'. That is called basic instinct.

If there is something we have to do for our child that really makes sense to us, we have no problems. For instance wearing seat belts, prevent too much sun, feeding them organic foods, avoid juices, most mothers have a problem with those things.

And even if once in a while we hear that a person could have been saved in an accident if her were not buckled down, or when we hear of vit D deficiencies, a baby choking on a raw carrot, lack of vit C, etc.

We weight the pro and con. We see the benefits. Those things make sense. They don't have to be forced upon us. We do them freely and gladly.

But when we hear that there are epidemics in highly vaccinated populations, such as Diphtheria in fully vaccinated former USSR countries, or whooping cough or measles in mostly vaccinated areas in the USA, and we hear of all the side effects of vaccines, we can't make sense out of that.

It is estimated that 1 in 166 children have autism. We see childhood diabetes in children as young as 6 months, ADHD is rampant, schools are going broke trying to teach children who can not learn, childhood rheumatism is on the rise and cancers are so wide spread that we now have special children's cancer clinics. How sad!

What could cause those horribly painful diseases in children? Could it be our interference in the normal developing immune system? If not, why is no one looking for other reasons? Perhaps because the pharmaceutical business knows all too well?

I would not vaccinate my children even if it were mandatory. Other countries do not have such forceful vaccine programs and their children are healthy and seem to be further ahead in schools in every subject. Most European countries has no mandatory vaccines and those that do encourage one or two vaccines which they produce.
Re: Scared
Dec 19, 2005
Starsofglass, I don't usually like to delve deeply into these discussions and I actually agree that we can't legitimately blame all increasing childhood illness on vaccines but I strongly feel we should ask the question...is it *possible* that vaccinations are causing our children to become ill.

A better question would be why isn't the government doing further research in this area? Why are we not hearing more about the possible side effects/reactions of vaccinations when even our ibuprofen bottle comes with an entire label of cautions and warnings that they strongly advise you consider before taking it?

Why is it so quiet on this side of the issue? Parents are calling for investigation but the government is not responding. Why can we not get studies done that are NOT funded by the pharmaceutical companies and the AMA?

Why is this such a fear driven subject? We fear one way or the other rather than intelligently considering both sides of the issue and deciding what is best for ourselves and our children.

The truth is those that exercise their right not to vaccinate often fall under mild persecution from drs, schools, friends and family. Yet I know very few moms that vaccinate that even know which diseases the letters DPT stand for let alone know how the vaccine was formulated and what exactly it contains (I realize there are also many moms who do their research and vaccinate with intelligence and confidence).

Which brings up another question why is it such a secret what the ingredients of the vaccines are? Why is this information not offered up front as it is in ANY other prescription or over the counter med? My prescriptions even list the type of dye that was used to color it. Yet we take our child in, get them poked and take them home. If our dr is on the up and up we may even get a little folder that explains what each of the diseases are and how very very dangerous they can be along with all possible side effects each one of them can cause...I have never heard of a case where a dr that supports vaccinations offered a parent an explanation of the vaccinations rather than or along with the diseases. We are in essence told to fear nature not technology but it's nature that we're sure of and technology that needs to be proven.

I am not for or against vaccinations; I'm for education. Knowledge is power and it turns fear into confidence. Every person has a responsibility to do what they feel is right and necessary even if they have to stand alone to do it.

Love and Prayers, Kelly

P.S. I'll get off my soapbox now :D.





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